2017 Norco Fluid FS 2.2 vs 2016 Surly Karate Monkey
The XS is the Surly Karate Monkey size closest to your 20" Norco Fluid FS 2.2. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Surly Karate Monkey
Compared with the Norco Fluid FS 2.2 in 20", the Surly Karate Monkey in XS places the top of the head tube 165 mm higher and 59 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 184 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- +165 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +59 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +184 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- −0.5°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Norco Fluid FS 2.2 numbers we have for size 20" are missing the chainstay length. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Norco Fluid FS 2.2 20" | Surly Karate Monkey XS | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 302 | 361 | +59 mm |
| Stack | 442 | 607 | +165 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68 | 67.5° | −0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 72 | 71.5° | −0.5° |
| Wheelbase | 887 | 1071 | +184 mm |
| Head tube length | 100 | 100 | ±0 mm |
| Chainstay length | not listed | 423 | |
| BB drop | not listed | 44 | |
| Standover | not listed | 757 | |
| Seat tube length | not listed | 330 | |
| Fork length | not listed | 521 |
Differences are the Surly Karate Monkey minus the Norco Fluid FS 2.2. Full charts: 2017 Norco Fluid FS 2.2, 2016 Surly Karate Monkey.
Where each sits in its class
Norco Fluid FS 2.2Surly Karate Monkey
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Norco Fluid FS 2.22.2 | Surly Karate Monkey |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | Rst First 24 | not listed |
| Shifter | Shimano Deore M610 10 spd | not listed |
| Derailleur | Shimano Deore Shadow Plus GS 10 spd | not listed |
| Cassette | Shimano HG-50 11-36T 10 spd | not listed |
| Crankset | Samox 2pc w/28T narrow/wide | not listed |
| Pedals | Wellgo JR one piece design | not listed |
| Tire | Maxxis Maxx Daddy 20x2.0 | not listed |
| Rim | Alex Rims DP 17 double wall 20” rim | not listed |
| Brake | Tektro Hydraulic disc brake w/shorter reach | not listed |
| Headset | FSA # 10 internal 50 OD/44 ID | not listed |
| Saddle | Norco Jr. XC trail saddle | not listed |
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