2013 Salsa Horsethief vs 2015 Ibis Ripley LS
The L is the Ibis Ripley LS size closest to your M Salsa Horsethief. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Ibis Ripley LS
Compared with the Salsa Horsethief in M, the Ibis Ripley LS in L places the top of the head tube 8 mm higher and 5 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- +8 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +5 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −1.1°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
We can't draw these frames yet. The Salsa Horsethief numbers we have for size M are missing the wheelbase. The numbers below still compare.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Horsethief M | Ibis Ripley LS L | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 422.6 | 428 | +5 mm |
| Stack | 622.7 | 631 | +8 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68.6 | 67.5 | −1.1° |
| Seat tube angle | 72.6 | 73 | +0.4° |
| Effective top tube | 618 | 619 | +1 mm |
| Chainstay length | 460 | not listed | |
| BB drop | 25.6 | not listed | |
| Standover | 786.6 | not listed | |
| Seat tube length | 457.2 | 470 | +13 mm |
| Fork length | 545 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 110 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | not listed | 1167 |
Differences are the Ibis Ripley LS minus the Salsa Horsethief. Full charts: 2013 Salsa Horsethief, 2015 Ibis Ripley LS.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa HorsethiefIbis Ripley LS
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
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