2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti vs 2016 Surly Wednesday
The XL is the Surly Wednesday size closest to your XL Salsa Timberjack Ti. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Surly Wednesday
Compared with the Salsa Timberjack Ti in XL, the Surly Wednesday in XL places the top of the head tube 18 mm lower and 21 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- −18 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −21 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- +0.2°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Salsa Timberjack Ti, XLSurly Wednesday, XLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Timberjack Ti XL | Surly Wednesday XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 492.0 | 471.0 | −21 mm |
| Stack | 624.0 | 606.0 | −18 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68.8 | 69.0° | +0.2° |
| Seat tube angle | 74.4 | 73.5° | −0.9° |
| Effective top tube | 667.2 | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 420.0 - 437.0 | 435.0 | |
| Wheelbase | 1174.0 - 1190.0 | 1164.0 | |
| BB drop | 64.0 | 55.0 | −9 mm |
| Standover | 825.0 | 841.0 | +16 mm |
| Seat tube length | 533.4 | 516.0 | −17 mm |
| Fork length | 483.0 | 468.0 | −15 mm |
| Head tube length | 125.0 | 130.0 | +5 mm |
Differences are the Surly Wednesday minus the Salsa Timberjack Ti. Full charts: 2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti, 2016 Surly Wednesday.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa Timberjack TiSurly Wednesday
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
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