2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti vs 2016 Surly Wednesday
The Surly Wednesday size closest to your M is the M. Compare the M instead
What changes on the Surly Wednesday
Compared with the Salsa Timberjack Ti in M, the Surly Wednesday in XL places the top of the head tube 5 mm higher and 32 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- +5 mm
- Higher front end
- Frame reach
- +32 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- +0.2°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Salsa Timberjack Ti, MSurly Wednesday, XLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Timberjack Ti M | Surly Wednesday XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 439.0 | 471.0 | +32 mm |
| Stack | 601.0 | 606.0 | +5 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68.8 | 69.0° | +0.2° |
| Seat tube angle | 74.4 | 73.5° | −0.9° |
| Effective top tube | 607.0 | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 420.0 - 437.0 | 435.0 | |
| Wheelbase | 1112.0 - 1128.0 | 1164.0 | |
| BB drop | 64.0 | 55.0 | −9 mm |
| Standover | 749.0 | 841.0 | +92 mm |
| Seat tube length | 431.8 | 516.0 | +84 mm |
| Fork length | 483.0 | 468.0 | −15 mm |
| Head tube length | 100.0 | 130.0 | +30 mm |
Differences are the Surly Wednesday minus the Salsa Timberjack Ti. Full charts: 2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti, 2016 Surly Wednesday.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa Timberjack TiSurly Wednesday
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
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