2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti vs 2016 Surly Wednesday
The Surly Wednesday size closest to your M is the M. Compare the M instead
What changes on the Surly Wednesday
Compared with the Salsa Timberjack Ti in M, the Surly Wednesday in XS places the top of the head tube 28 mm lower and 39 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- −28 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −39 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- +0.2°
- About the same head angle
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Salsa Timberjack Ti, MSurly Wednesday, XSDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Salsa Timberjack Ti M | Surly Wednesday XS | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 439.0 | 400.0 | −39 mm |
| Stack | 601.0 | 573.0 | −28 mm |
| Head tube angle | 68.8 | 69.0° | +0.2° |
| Seat tube angle | 74.4 | 73.5° | −0.9° |
| Effective top tube | 607.0 | not listed | |
| Chainstay length | 420.0 - 437.0 | 435.0 | |
| Wheelbase | 1112.0 - 1128.0 | 1081.0 | |
| BB drop | 64.0 | 55.0 | −9 mm |
| Standover | 749.0 | 711.0 | −38 mm |
| Seat tube length | 431.8 | 316.0 | −116 mm |
| Fork length | 483.0 | 468.0 | −15 mm |
| Head tube length | 100.0 | 95.0 | −5 mm |
Differences are the Surly Wednesday minus the Salsa Timberjack Ti. Full charts: 2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti, 2016 Surly Wednesday.
Where each sits in its class
Salsa Timberjack TiSurly Wednesday
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
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