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2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti vs 2019 Trek Stache AL Frameset

The ML is the Trek Stache AL Frameset size closest to your S Salsa Timberjack Ti. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Trek Stache AL Frameset

Compared with the Salsa Timberjack Ti in S, the Trek Stache AL Frameset in ML places the top of the head tube 43 mm higher and 11 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket.

Frame stack
+43 mm
Higher front end
Frame reach
+11 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this
Head angle
−1.0°
Slacker: calmer steering
Chainstays
n/a
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The two frames

2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti (S) and 2019 Trek Stache AL Frameset (ML), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Salsa Timberjack Ti is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Trek Stache AL Frameset is the colored outline on top.J 1091

Salsa Timberjack Ti, STrek Stache AL Frameset, MLDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSalsa Timberjack Ti STrek Stache AL Frameset MLDifference
Reach420.0431+11 mm
Stack601.0644+43 mm
Head tube angle68.867.8°−1.0°
Seat tube angle74.473.5°−0.9°
Effective top tube587.0629+42 mm
Chainstay length420.0 - 437.0420
Wheelbase1091.0 - 1107.01135
BB drop64.065+1 mm
Standover713.0768+55 mm
Seat tube length381.0445+64 mm
Fork length483.0not listed
Head tube length100.0100±0 mm
BB heightnot listed322

Differences are the Trek Stache AL Frameset minus the Salsa Timberjack Ti. Full charts: 2017 Salsa Timberjack Ti, 2019 Trek Stache AL Frameset.

Where each sits in its class

Salsa Timberjack TiTrek Stache AL Frameset

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSalsa Timberjack TiTrek Stache AL FramesetAL Frameset
Framenot listedTrek Alpha Platinum
Headsetnot listedFSA IS2

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