2016 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2017 Ibis Ripley LS
We can't match sizes for these two: one of them has no stack and reach for the sizes shown.
What changes on the Ibis Ripley LS
- Frame stack
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Frame reach
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Wheelbase
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
- Head angle
- −4.0°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Surly Karate Monkey is drawn. The Ibis Ripley LS numbers we have for size XL are missing the reach, stack, chainstay length and wheelbase.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Karate Monkey Medium (18) | Ibis Ripley LS XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 415.1 | not listed | |
| Stack | 602.5 | not listed | |
| Head tube angle | 71.5° | 67.5 | −4.0° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.0° | 73 | ±0.0° |
| Chainstay length | 431.0 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1064.9 | not listed | |
| BB drop | 68.0 | not listed | |
| Standover | 792.7 | not listed | |
| Seat tube length | 457.2 | 521 | +64 mm |
| Fork length | 468.0 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 100.0 | not listed | |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 640 |
Differences are the Ibis Ripley LS minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2016 Surly Karate Monkey, 2017 Ibis Ripley LS.
Where each sits in its class
Surly Karate MonkeyIbis Ripley LS
AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted
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