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2016 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2014 Santa Cruz 5010

The XL is the Santa Cruz 5010 size closest to your L Surly Karate Monkey. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Santa Cruz 5010

Compared with the Surly Karate Monkey in L, the Santa Cruz 5010 in XL places the top of the head tube 8 mm lower and 15 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 31 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
−8 mm
Lower front end
Frame reach
+15 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
−31 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
+0.5°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
n/a
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The two frames

2016 Surly Karate Monkey (L)The Surly Karate Monkey frame drawn to scale.J 1147

Only the Surly Karate Monkey is drawn. The Santa Cruz 5010 numbers we have for size XL are missing the chainstay length.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSurly Karate Monkey LSanta Cruz 5010 XLDifference
Reach434448.9+15 mm
Stack617608.8−8 mm
Head tube angle67.5°68+0.5°
Seat tube angle71.5°73+1.5°
Chainstay length423not listed
Wheelbase11471116.4−31 mm
BB drop44not listed
Standover826747.1−79 mm
Seat tube length470not listed
Fork length521not listed
Head tube length110not listed

Differences are the Santa Cruz 5010 minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2016 Surly Karate Monkey, 2014 Santa Cruz 5010.

Where each sits in its class

Surly Karate MonkeySanta Cruz 5010

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

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