2016 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2014 Santa Cruz 5010
The M is the Santa Cruz 5010 size closest to your S Surly Karate Monkey. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Santa Cruz 5010
Compared with the Surly Karate Monkey in S, the Santa Cruz 5010 in M places the top of the head tube 16 mm lower and 17 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket.
- Frame stack
- −16 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- +17 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +2 mm
- About the same
- Head angle
- +0.5°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Surly Karate Monkey is drawn. The Santa Cruz 5010 numbers we have for size M are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Karate Monkey S | Santa Cruz 5010 M | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 387 | 404 | +17 mm |
| Stack | 607 | 590.7 | −16 mm |
| Head tube angle | 67.5° | 68 | +0.5° |
| Seat tube angle | 71.5° | 73 | +1.5° |
| Chainstay length | 423 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1096 | 1098 | +2 mm |
| BB drop | 44 | not listed | |
| Standover | 775 | 729 | −46 mm |
| Seat tube length | 368 | not listed | |
| Fork length | 521 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 100 | not listed |
Differences are the Santa Cruz 5010 minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2016 Surly Karate Monkey, 2014 Santa Cruz 5010.
Where each sits in its class
Surly Karate MonkeySanta Cruz 5010
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
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