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2016 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2014 Santa Cruz 5010

The M is the Santa Cruz 5010 size closest to your Small (16) Surly Karate Monkey. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Santa Cruz 5010

Compared with the Surly Karate Monkey in Small (16), the Santa Cruz 5010 in M places the top of the head tube at about the same height and 9 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 52 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.

Frame stack
−0 mm
About the same height
Frame reach
+9 mm
Longer frame reach
Wheelbase
+52 mm
Longer: steadier at speed
Head angle
−3.0°
Slacker: calmer steering
Chainstays
n/a
One of the bikes has no number for this

The two frames

2016 Surly Karate Monkey (Small (16))The Surly Karate Monkey frame drawn to scale.J 1046

Only the Surly Karate Monkey is drawn. The Santa Cruz 5010 numbers we have for size M are missing the chainstay length.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSurly Karate Monkey Small (16)Santa Cruz 5010 MDifference
Reach394.9404+9 mm
Stack591.1590.7−0 mm
Head tube angle71.0°68−3.0°
Seat tube angle73.0°73±0.0°
Chainstay length431.0not listed
Wheelbase1046.11098+52 mm
BB drop68.0not listed
Standover762.9729−34 mm
Seat tube length406.4not listed
Fork length468.0not listed
Head tube length100.0not listed

Differences are the Santa Cruz 5010 minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2016 Surly Karate Monkey, 2014 Santa Cruz 5010.

Where each sits in its class

Surly Karate MonkeySanta Cruz 5010

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

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