2016 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2014 Santa Cruz 5010
The XL is the Santa Cruz 5010 size closest to your xLarge (22) Surly Karate Monkey. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Santa Cruz 5010
Compared with the Surly Karate Monkey in xLarge (22), the Santa Cruz 5010 in XL places the top of the head tube 19 mm lower and 9 mm further forward, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 23 mm longer, which can contribute to stability at speed.
- Frame stack
- −19 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- +9 mm
- Longer frame reach
- Wheelbase
- +23 mm
- Longer: steadier at speed
- Head angle
- −4.0°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- n/a
- One of the bikes has no number for this
The two frames
Only the Surly Karate Monkey is drawn. The Santa Cruz 5010 numbers we have for size XL are missing the chainstay length.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Karate Monkey xLarge (22) | Santa Cruz 5010 XL | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 440.1 | 448.9 | +9 mm |
| Stack | 628.2 | 608.8 | −19 mm |
| Head tube angle | 72.0° | 68 | −4.0° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.0° | 73 | ±0.0° |
| Chainstay length | 431.0 | not listed | |
| Wheelbase | 1093.0 | 1116.4 | +23 mm |
| BB drop | 68.0 | not listed | |
| Standover | 853.5 | 747.1 | −106 mm |
| Seat tube length | 558.8 | not listed | |
| Fork length | 468.0 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 125.0 | not listed |
Differences are the Santa Cruz 5010 minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2016 Surly Karate Monkey, 2014 Santa Cruz 5010.
Where each sits in its class
Surly Karate MonkeySanta Cruz 5010
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
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