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2016 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2015 Specialized Camber Grom

The GROM is the Specialized Camber Grom size closest to your L Surly Karate Monkey. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.

What changes on the Specialized Camber Grom

Compared with the Surly Karate Monkey in L, the Specialized Camber Grom in GROM places the top of the head tube 70 mm lower and 46 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 81 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.

Frame stack
−70 mm
Lower front end
Frame reach
−46 mm
Shorter frame reach
Wheelbase
−81 mm
Shorter: quicker to change direction
Head angle
+1.0°
Steeper: sharper steering
Chainstays
−3 mm
Shorter: livelier

The two frames

2016 Surly Karate Monkey (L) and 2015 Specialized Camber Grom (GROM), lined up at the bottom bracketBoth frames drawn to scale. The Surly Karate Monkey is drawn in full with its measurements, and the Specialized Camber Grom is the colored outline on top.J 1147

Surly Karate Monkey, LSpecialized Camber Grom, GROMDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.

Geometry side by side

MeasurementSurly Karate Monkey LSpecialized Camber Grom GROMDifference
Reach434388mm−46 mm
Stack617547mm−70 mm
Head tube angle67.5°68.5°+1.0°
Seat tube angle71.5°70.5°−1.0°
Chainstay length423420mm−3 mm
Wheelbase11471066mm−81 mm
BB drop44not listed
Standover826621mm−205 mm
Seat tube length470394mm−76 mm
Fork length521not listed
Head tube length110not listed
Effective top tubenot listednot listed
BB heightnot listed291mm

Differences are the Specialized Camber Grom minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2016 Surly Karate Monkey, 2015 Specialized Camber Grom.

Where each sits in its class

Surly Karate MonkeySpecialized Camber Grom

AggressivePositionUpright
CalmSteeringQuick
PlayfulBalancePlanted

Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.

What each ships with

The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.

PartSurly Karate MonkeySpecialized Camber GromGrom
Forknot listedRockShox Recon Gold
Rear shocknot listedFox Float CTD Evolution
Shifternot listedSRAM X5
Derailleurnot listedSRAM X7
Cassettenot listedSRAM PG-1020
Chainnot listedSRAM 1031
Cranksetnot listedSRAM S-1250
Bottom bracketnot listedSRAM XR
Tirenot listedMaxxis Snyper
Hubnot listedSpecialized Hi Lo
Brakenot listedTektro Gemini Comp
Gripsnot listedSpecialized Sip Grip

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