2016 Surly Karate Monkey vs 2015 Specialized Camber Grom
The GROM is the Specialized Camber Grom size closest to your XL Surly Karate Monkey. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Specialized Camber Grom
Compared with the Surly Karate Monkey in XL, the Specialized Camber Grom in GROM places the top of the head tube 80 mm lower and 69 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 106 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −80 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −69 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −106 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- +1.0°
- Steeper: sharper steering
- Chainstays
- −3 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
Surly Karate Monkey, XLSpecialized Camber Grom, GROMDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Karate Monkey XL | Specialized Camber Grom GROM | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 457 | 388mm | −69 mm |
| Stack | 627 | 547mm | −80 mm |
| Head tube angle | 67.5° | 68.5° | +1.0° |
| Seat tube angle | 71.5° | 70.5° | −1.0° |
| Chainstay length | 423 | 420mm | −3 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1172 | 1066mm | −106 mm |
| BB drop | 44 | not listed | |
| Standover | 855 | 621mm | −234 mm |
| Seat tube length | 521 | 394mm | −127 mm |
| Fork length | 521 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 120 | not listed | |
| Effective top tube | not listed | not listed | |
| BB height | not listed | 291mm |
Differences are the Specialized Camber Grom minus the Surly Karate Monkey. Full charts: 2016 Surly Karate Monkey, 2015 Specialized Camber Grom.
Where each sits in its class
Surly Karate MonkeySpecialized Camber Grom
Each bike is ranked against the other trail bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Surly Karate Monkey | Specialized Camber GromGrom |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | not listed | RockShox Recon Gold |
| Rear shock | not listed | Fox Float CTD Evolution |
| Shifter | not listed | SRAM X5 |
| Derailleur | not listed | SRAM X7 |
| Cassette | not listed | SRAM PG-1020 |
| Chain | not listed | SRAM 1031 |
| Crankset | not listed | SRAM S-1250 |
| Bottom bracket | not listed | SRAM XR |
| Tire | not listed | Maxxis Snyper |
| Hub | not listed | Specialized Hi Lo |
| Brake | not listed | Tektro Gemini Comp |
| Grips | not listed | Specialized Sip Grip |
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