2016 Surly Ogre vs 2018 Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s
The T is the Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s size closest to your XL Surly Ogre. We match frame stack and reach. This is a geometry comparison, not a fit recommendation; stem, spacers, handlebars and saddle setup also affect your riding position.
What changes on the Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s
Compared with the Surly Ogre in XL, the Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s in T places the top of the head tube 54 mm lower and 51 mm further back, relative to the bottom bracket. Its wheelbase is 40 mm shorter, which can contribute to quicker direction changes.
- Frame stack
- −54 mm
- Lower front end
- Frame reach
- −51 mm
- Shorter frame reach
- Wheelbase
- −40 mm
- Shorter: quicker to change direction
- Head angle
- −2.0°
- Slacker: calmer steering
- Chainstays
- −5 mm
- Shorter: livelier
The two frames
Surly Ogre, XLCannondale Quick Disc Women’s, TDrawn to scale and lined up at the bottom bracket.
Geometry side by side
| Measurement | Surly Ogre XL | Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s T | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reach | 447 | 396 | −51 mm |
| Stack | 632 | 578 | −54 mm |
| Head tube angle | 72.0° | 70 | −2.0° |
| Seat tube angle | 73.0° | 73 | ±0.0° |
| Chainstay length | 440 | 435 | −5 mm |
| Wheelbase | 1110 | 1070 | −40 mm |
| BB drop | 68 | 68 | ±0 mm |
| Standover | 857.85 | 731 | −127 mm |
| Seat tube length | 558 | 450 | −108 mm |
| Fork length | 447 | not listed | |
| Head tube length | 150 | 160 | +10 mm |
| Effective top tube | not listed | 573 | |
| BB height | not listed | 277 |
Differences are the Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s minus the Surly Ogre. Full charts: 2016 Surly Ogre, 2018 Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s.
Where each sits in its class
Surly OgreCannondale Quick Disc Women’s
Each bike is ranked against the other commuter bikes on Quiver, on frame geometry alone. Not your hand position or ride feel.
What each ships with
The stock build of each bike's first listed trim. Parts that match are dimmed.
| Part | Surly Ogre | Cannondale Quick Disc Women’s1 Disc Women’s |
|---|---|---|
| Fork | not listed | Si |
| Derailleur | not listed | Shimano 105 |
| Cassette | not listed | Shimano 105 |
| Crankset | not listed | FSA Omega |
| Bottom bracket | not listed | FSA MegaExo |
| Pedals | not listed | Cannondale Reinforced |
| Tire | not listed | Schwalbe Spicer |
| Rim | not listed | Maddux DC3.0 |
| Brake | not listed | Shimano Acera M396 hydro |
| Handlebar | not listed | Cannondale C3 |
| Stem | not listed | Cannondale C3 |
| Headset | not listed | FSA Si |
| Seatpost | not listed | Cannondale C3 |
| Saddle | not listed | Cannondale Density |
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